What we can learn from Crocus City Hall, even if it's too early now ... Part 8

Part 1 @RussiaJustice122

So the real ethical dilemma question is "is more worse a innocent sentenced to death or 30 innocent killed by no death penalty for example???" Is 1 over 30 more important??!

YES; it's an ethical dilemma! Don't consider just "the poor 1" if you ignore "the poor 30!"
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Plus don't think that just because the prisoner is getting life sentence, he lives better than with a death penalty!
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При отсутствии смертной казни в уголовном законе страны все меры наказания как бы автоматически «понижаются», а судьи выносят более мягкие приговоры.

In the absence of the death penalty in the country’s criminal law, all penalties are automatically “lowered,” and judges hand down more lenient sentences.

BULLSHIT! France has no death penalty and still believe in life sentence for many crimes!
@DeathPenaltyOneToOne192

Perfect ... let we keep 1.5 years of prison for rape!
@LawsTelegram49

Why not removing prison at all? Would be much easier! Let we keep all "innocents"

Plus exactly what? How can you reduce sentences for animals crimes, if such things ARE ALREADY RIDICOULUS LOW!
@MissionPlaneta59

Так, террорист Брейвик, организатор и исполнитель взрыва в 2011 г. в центре Осло и нападения на молодежный лагерь, в результате чего 77 человек погибли и 151 ранены, отбывает пожизненное заключение в трехкомнатной одиночной камере и имеет доступ в интернет и спортзал.

Thus, the terrorist Breivik, the organizer and perpetrator of the 2011 bombing in the center of Oslo and the attack on a youth camp, as a result of which 77 people were killed and 151 injured, is serving a life sentence in a three-room solitary confinement cell and has access to the Internet and a gym.

PLEASE LESS BULLSHIT ABOUT BREIVIK! BREVIK KILLED MORE THAN 77 PEOPLE!
@BreivikFacts7

What we can learn from Crocus City Hall, even if it's too early now ... Part 1

First, would be cool if 🇷🇺 gov websites would work! since we try to read things, but they simply don't work = we cannot read anything ...

Before making the list, let we do another 1:1 with science and facts about the death penalty! Remember, science IS AVAILABLE in the cited posts! we don't rewrite again what we posted weeks / months ago!

Лозунг о введении смертной казни, по мнению сторонников данного подхода, отвечает настроениям и ожиданиям нашего общества, и эту тему нужно «глубоко проработать» https://perma.cc/KS56-RGMH

The slogan about introducing the death penalty, according to supporters of this approach, meets the mood and expectations of our society, and this topic needs to be “deeply studied.”

DEATH PENALTY OR JUSTICE IS NOT BASED ON FEELINGS! LET WE REMEMBER THAT AGAIN!
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"to be “deeply studied.”
YES, but with FACTS AND SCIENCE! (and neutrality! = showing all + and - from multiple perspective) not propaganda, opinions and bullshit!
@DeathPenaltyOneToOne
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exactly like Amnesty is doing!
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and other dudes are doing
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without even sharing any type of science at all! if not their bullshit propaganda! (that we have already verified!)

and most important READ SUCH THINGS! instead of skipping all infos and saying "we don't agree" WITHOUT even KNOWING what has been written or cited! so the classic social network usage of people, no matter about which topic!
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Again, NO IGNORANCE PLEASE!
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See next post

We clearly don't stand with Dahmer / Atta father mentality!
Please release my son, we can reeducate them!
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Because sentences should not be based ON BULLSHIT FEELINGS!
@DeathSentenceFAQ101
@BreivikFacts7
@RussiaJustice46

Terrorists / mass shooters / people who get money for killing and similar people should not get a bullshit reeducation!
@BreivikSyndrome

We reeducate people that deserve to get reeducate
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@MoscowTerrorAttack14

We don't reeducate people that could redo the exact or similar crime!

Stealing a stupid 🃏or killing your mother / baby or whatever is different than mass killing people!

Behind Crocus City Hall Terror Attack - Russia Terrorism Part 8

Part 1 @TerrorismTelegram1334

Amnesty: "If committed (torture), it is also a crime and must be addressed as such Victims will not obtain justice unless those responsible for this atrocity are held to account in fair trial proceedings, fully in line with international standards"

Yes, exactly, doing serious torture is a crime! Cutting something to humans or animals is a crime! Talking about torture in general without saying what you mean with torture is bullshit instead ...

Максимальное наказание (в случае, если обвиняемым нанесли тяжкий вред здоровью или кого-то из них убили бы) — 15 лет лишения свободы https://perma.cc/JPT8-RTSC

The maximum penalty (if the accused were seriously harmed or one of them was killed) is 15 years in prison 🤦‍♂️💩

Justice for the victim ... It's not about justice for the victim! It's about applying a sentence to reduce crimes! no matter if 0 people or 1000 people got killed! Same terror attack with 0 deaths? SAME EXACT SENTENCE!
@CrimeExamples118

This means life in prison without parole + assisted suicide option after 10-20 years OR death penalty!

Не случайно запрет пыток в признанных на международном уровне правах человека абсолютный и безусловный, объясняет «Медузе» анонимный правозащитник.

It is no coincidence that the prohibition of torture in internationally recognized human rights is absolute and unconditional, an anonymous human rights activist explains to Meduza.

Sorry what?? What is this bullshit!

Ask Sibilla Barbieri if this is true!
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Animal cruelty is intimately associated with domestic violence and represents another form of abuse that may accompany harmful treatment of children or romantic partners and forms of psychological abuse and intimidation.
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Behind Crocus City Hall Terror Attack - Russia Terrorism Part 7

Part 1 @TerrorismTelegram1334

With assisted suicide, now we mean real assisted suicide ... not the death penalty!
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that get applied after 10-20 years! if wished

So if we talk about such "tabu topics", let we talk about all points, because for sure we have NO FEAR to talk about tabu topics ...

Don't talk just about "prisoners don't deserve torture", but you forget that having a life in prison is a torture! (especially if not in @BreivikHotel), thinking how you can die in prison because there is no death penalty or assisted suicide is another torture!

Yes, even Dahmer had suicide wishes!
@MoscowTerrorAttack10
Do you think this is not torture for Dahmer? This is torture too!

Exactly like knowing another prisoner could kill you in any moment! This is another torture!

So being in prison IS A TORTURE per default ... and this would be already against "No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment" https://perma.cc/JW6H-ZCEL

So based on your propaganda, we should ban prisons at whole!

But do you know what?

Restrictions on fundamental rights must be justified in the public interest or for the protection of the fundamental rights of others https://perma.cc/HY5K-EV49

Here we go why prisons exists! Because we apply a restriction of fundamental rights! and we do such restriction with tons of things!

Even with Breivik!
@BreivikParole111

Now related to Russia ... do we support that? We already answered that
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Can russia 💇 bodyparts? NOPE!

What do we mean with soft / middle torture?

NO IDEA, because we are not experts on torture methods! but if there is something that is not tragic and could help to get such infos, we would maybe support that!

This means even psychological torture! because again human right of the population is more important than other things! and "prison is still torture"!