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Amnesty 🇪🇸 1:1 pena de muerte / death penalty Part 7

Part 1 @AmnestyOneToOne95

So again, AMNESTY AND CAROLYN HOYLE (= University of Oxford) ARE FAKE SCIENCE AND INFOS! where Carolyn is 1000x better than Amnesty BUT STILL YEARS AWAY FROM BEING PERFECT!
@CarolynHoyle

Not just them, even John Bessler and co. are BULLSHIT!
@JohnBessler
@DeathPenaltyMafia

Please don't come here with BULLSHIT SCIENCE ABOUT HOMICIDES! since we already verified all such things previously! and we are even ready to verify other things if needed!
@AmnestyFake
@AmnestyFacts
🖇🤡 @addlist

This means even LESS BULLSHIT ABOUT RECIDIVISM!
@RecidivismFacts

or considering some crimes less "worse" since you keep eyes closed about all what is happening BEFORE OR AFTER THE CRIME!
@SuicideRape
@BreivikTrauma
@EmpathyTelegram

Related
@DeathSentenceFAQ361
@DeathSentenceFAQ328
@DeathSentenceFAQ304
etc.

The difference between us and the other two? We share both sides, even if we support death penalty for SOME (not all) crimes! and we are not saying YOU NEED TO IMPLEMENT THAT PUNTO E BASTA! Because even implementing that, doesn't mean implementing that for all crimes or or or! Everyone can do what he wants BUT ONLY AFTER CONSIDERING ALL FACTS! not bullshit! and ALL POINT OF VIEWS! not just from a criminal point of view, forgetting guards, innocent killed, homeless, etc!

Check all previous one to one:
@DeathSentenceFAQ
@EthicalDilemmaHumanRights

8. Acuerdos internacionales para la abolición de la pena de muerte

YES EXACTLY 🇪🇺 EUROPE IS A GREAT MAFIA!
@AmnestyOneToOne95
@DeathPenaltyIgnorance211
@AmnestyPropaganda
@DeathPenaltyMafia
@AmnestyBullshit723

Not just related to death penalty!
@EuropeFacts

Innocent
@ShittyDeathSentences178

Amnesty 🇪🇸 1 to 1 about pena de muerte / death penalty facts Part 6

Part 1 @AmnestyOneToOne95

El efecto de la abolición en los índices de delincuencia - The effect of abolition on crime rates

En Canadá, por ejemplo, el índice de homicidios por 100.000 habitantes descendió del 3,09 en 1975, el nivel máximo alcanzado y correspondiente al año anterior a la abolición de la pena de muerte para el delito de asesinato, al 2,41 en 1980, y desde entonces ha descendido aún más. En 2002, 26 años después de la abolición de la pena capital, el índice de homicidios era del 1,85 por 100.000 habitantes, un 40 por ciento inferior al de 1975.

In Canada, for example, the homicide rate per 100,000 inhabitants fell from 3.09 in 1975, the highest level reached and corresponding to the year before the abolition of the death penalty for the crime of murder, to 2.41 in 1980. , and has since fallen even further. In 2002, 26 years after the abolition of capital punishment, the homicide rate was 1.85 per 100,000 inhabitants, 40 percent lower than in 1975.

Here we go! THIS IS BULLSHIT OF AMNESTY AND CAROLYN HOYLE!
@AmnestyShit116
@AmnestyShit32
@AmnestyPropaganda92
@CarolynHoyle19
@LawsTelegram133
@DeathSentenceFAQ328
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and WE DON'T SUPPORT SUCH BULLSHIT AT ALL!
@LawsTelegram133
@DeathPenaltyOneToOne15

So again Carolyn Hoyle, you are not fully bad! BUT YOU ARE NOT PERFECT TOO!
@CarolynHoyle

WE DON'T SUPPORT MAFIOUS RESEARCHER! Share all facts and share TRUE FACTS! not just half of the informations by posting

Table 9.1 Australia: Murder and manslaughter, rate per 100,000 persons, 1993–2005

when THIS IS AFTER!!! LAST EXECUTION OR THE BAN! without showing WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE THAT OR DURING THAT!
@DeathSentenceFAQ328 https://perma.cc/8QRH-3AR4

Amnesty 🇪🇸 1 to 1 about pena de muerte / death penalty facts Part 5

Part 1 @AmnestyOneToOne95

The estimated effects of capital punishment on homicide rates change dramatically even with small changes in econometric specifications!!!
@DeathSentenceFAQ328

LIKE WE SAID! is not just about "death penalty yes or no"! It's MORE COMPLEX!

Fourth, have all the relevant variables been taken into account when attempt- ing to control for those other factors that might affect both the homicide rate and the execution rate? EXACTLY!!!

Factors that may affect the homicide rate, outside gun ownership, are difficult to measure because they are facets of the more general social climate and culture, such as migration, the effectiveness of informal social controls, the extent of alcohol abuse, the availability and price of illegal drugs, the degree of communal integration, and the extent to which there is a ‘sub-culture of violence’ or alternative modes of relieving frustrations other than violence ... etc.
@DeathSentenceFAQ392

At least Carolyn Hoyle has brain and cite such things! instead OF IGNORING LIKE AMNESTY!

Reason why Carolyn Hoyle is 1000x better than Amnesty! BUT still not perfect! sharing all points or facts ...
@CarolynHoyle

Yet, ‘None of the new deterrence studies consider the epidemics of drug use and related violence" 🤦‍♂️ ....

What about cannabis???
@RapeTelegram2284

Let we remember positive correlation between cannabis and homicides, if we exclude poor US states ... Does this mean cannabis increase homicides? NOPE! It's just correlation! NOT A FACT! Like death penalty cannot be correlated in the same way!
@AmnestyFake373

In summary: "... no es prudente aceptar la hipótesis de que la pena capital tenga un mayor poder disuasorio sobre los asesinatos que la amenaza y aplicación de la cadena perpetua, pena supuestamente inferior" IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THIS; THERE IS MUCH MORE BEHIND! and who wrote this book is saying such things too!

Amnesty 🇪🇸 1 to 1 about pena de muerte / death penalty facts Part 4

Part 1 @AmnestyOneToOne95

So Carolyn Hoyle in this part of the book IS NOT writing bad things! It's exactly like what we are saying! THERE IS NO EVIDENCE FOR BEING PRO OR CONTRA RELATED TO THE TOPIC DETERRENT! but don't come here with the bullshit "no death penalty = less homicides!" BECAUSE THIS IS BULLSHIT!
@LawsTelegram133
@AmnestyShit116
🖇🤡 @addlist

and we said previously, Carolyn is not considering all point of views and sometimes is writing bullshit, but she is doing still a better job than Amnesty!
@CarolynHoyle

For, as Dezhbakhsh and Shepherd recognize, executions also have costs: ‘these include the harm from the death penalty’s possibly discriminatory application and the risk of executing innocent people. Policy makers must weigh the benefits and costs to determine the optimal use of the death penalty’

Read such posts
@DeathSentenceFAQ377
@DeathSentenceFAQ355

What she is writing:

First, there is the problem of sufficient data.
First, the percentage of people sentenced to death in the United States who actually are executed is minute so the data will always seem insufficient!!

Second...the executions that do occur are disproportionately centered in a few states—indeed, close to a majority in a single state—so the various effects of skewing hamper sound empirical inference-drawing.

The inference drawn is that the fear of capital punishment rather than long imprisonment will not restrain those who are apt to commit murder, because murder usually arises from an explosion of temper or loss of control, from mental illness or defective personality, or from panic when faced with imminent capture.

Why exactly JUST TALKING ABOUT MURDERS!!! IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT MURDERS!
@DeathSentenceFAQ328

We find that the existing evidence for deterrence is surprisingly fragile ...

See next post

Amnesty 🇪🇸 1 to 1 about pena de muerte / death penalty facts Part 3

Part 1 @AmnestyOneToOne95

"Nor is there any reason to change the judgment made in 1985 that the data ‘are not sufficiently strong to lead researchers with different prior beliefs to reach a consensus regarding the deterrent effects of capital punishment"

"Most of those who favour abolition (assuming that they are not opposed to execution under any circumstances) would demand proof that executions have a substantial marginal deterrent effect"
NOPE! WE GIVE A SHIT TO DETERRENT! Is NOT HUGE important for serious criminals! RECIDIVISM IS MUCH MORE IMPORTANT!
@AnimalAbuseDeathSentence43

and we know that with death penalty WE KILL RECIDIVISM 100%!
@DeathSentenceFAQ270
@RecidivismFacts
@PrisonBreakFacts
@AmnestyIgnorance
@BreivikParole
@ParoleFacts

Do we keep in prison people that maybe will not do the same crime again? Well THIS IS PART OF THE SAFETY! and we do that with a life sentence too!

Human Rights and Safety of the population = high recidivism risk = high prison escape or whatever > Human Rights of Serious Criminals!
@DeathSentenceFAQ387

doesn't matter if Breivik will or will not redo a terror attack! BREIVIK IS A SERIOUS RISK and many other criminals are even a serious risk!
@AndersBehringBreivikTelegram768
even if there is the possibility he will never do that again! DOESN'T MATTER!

POPULATION > SERIOUS CRIMINALS!
FOREVER!

Plus the real question is deterrent of which type of crime, with which reason????! Why always just talking about deterrent!! Like we do with climate change, talking about average and saying that a baby is polluting exactly like a rich person 🤦‍♂️!
@ClimateChangeTelegram67

This is NOT science and facts! This is just 💩!

No matter what, Carolyn Hoyle in this part of the book IS NOT writing bad things! It's exactly like what we are saying! See next post

Amnesty 🇪🇸 1 to 1 about pena de muerte / death penalty facts Part 2

Part 1 @AmnestyOneToOne95

Los estudios científicos realizados no han podido nunca encontrar pruebas convincentes que demuestren que la pena capital tiene mayor poder disuasorio frente a la delincuencia que otros castigos.

Scientific studies have never been able to find convincing evidence that capital punishment has a greater deterrent power against crime than other punishments

Yes, BUT EVEN THE OPPOSITE!!!!! because this cannot be showed with science!
@DeathSentenceFAQ102

and don't forget that such things DEPENDS FROM A LOT OF FACTORS!!!
@AmnestyFake363
to
@AmnestyFake404

It's like saying "if we give condoms for free, there are no pregnant women anymore" which would be just BULLSHIT!

Plus is NOT just about deterrent!
@AnimalAbuseDeathSentence43
@DeathSentenceFAQ364
@DeathSentenceFAQ375

"The evidence reviewed in this chapter should lead any dispassionate analyst to conclude that it is not prudent to accept the hypothesis that capital punishment, as practised in the United States, deters murder to a marginally greater extent than does the threat and application of the supposedly lesser punishment of life imprisonment"

Who wrote that?
Carolyn Hoyle! a researcher BEING PART OF THIS MAFIA WRITING BULLSHIT! like we showed previously!
@CarolynHoyle
but still 1000x better than Amnesty!

Let we check what she is writing "the non-experimental research to which the study of the deterrent effects of capital punishment is necessarily limited will almost certainly be unable to meet those standards of proof"

"The only scientifically and ethically acceptable conclusion from the complete body of existing social science literature on deterrence and the death penalty is that it is impossible to tell whether deterrent effects are strong or weak or whether they exist at all . . . "

See next post

Amnesty 🇪🇸 1 to 1 about pena de muerte / death penalty facts Part 1

Una vez que se ha abolido la pena de muerte, rara vez se restablece ...
Once the death penalty has been abolished, it is rarely reinstated.

Obviously IF THIS IS NOT POSSIBLE AT ALL!
@JohnBessler132
and there is even 🇪🇺 EU MAFIA!
@DeathPenaltyMafia
using 🇪🇺 council and other mafia methods to contrast that
@DeathPenaltyIgnorance211
@EthicalDilemmaHumanRights152
@EthicalDilemmaHumanRights149

with bullshit facts
@AmnestyPropaganda
@AmnestyFacts
🖇🤡 @addlist
ℹ️ @JoinShareableChatFolders16

Would be time that people DO A CLEAR DISTINCTION BETWEEN TYPE / DEEP / REASON OF CRIMES! instead of putting all criminals in just one 🗑! which is NOT the case at all!
@DeathSentenceFAQ293

En el año 2003, el 84 por ciento de todas las ejecuciones de las que se tuvo noticia tuvieron lugar en China, Estados Unidos, Irán y Vietnam.

In 2003, 84 percent of all reported executions took place in China, the United States, Iran and Vietnam.

Who gives a shit where they are applied! Check
@DeathSentenceFAQ299

Los tratados internacionales para la protección de los derechos humanos prohíben condenar a muerte a toda persona menor de 18 años en el momento de cometerse el delito.

International treaties for the protection of human rights prohibit sentencing to death anyone under 18 years of age at the time of the crime.

Yes, young people deserve death penalty, exactly like women or other, if such people are serious criminals with high recidivism!
@ShittyDeathSentences135
@LawsTelegram176

Young people are criminal EXACTLY LIKE ADULTS! or even much worse in some cases!

See next post

Exactly THIS IS WHY YOU DON'T NEED TO LISTED TO AMNESTY!
@AmnestyIgnorance235
@AmnestyShit93
@AmnestyIgnorance237
@PrisonBreakFacts80
etc.
@addlist

because they give a shit if we need a 43 years sentence or not in future ... for them all prisoners are innocent and deserve parole ...
@DeathSentenceFAQ276

Plus exactly why 43 years???! Even such numbers 🤦‍♂️ 31+43 = 74 years ...

Yes, we wrote until 👨‍🦳 too
@AmnestyOneToOne73
but this AS LAST OPTION

🥇 death penalty 🥈 life sentence 🥉 👨‍🦳+ chemical / surgical castration!
@DeathSentenceNOW58

In Antonia Barra and other rape victim case? ⚰️!

We already said MULTIPLE RAPES IS DEATH PENALTY PER DEFAULT!
@AmnestyOneToOne73
@CrimeExamples44
If there is even suicide behind, well we have a double confirm for that!

Here a summary of 10 reasons to abolish the death penalty in English related to what we have done previously with Amnesty Italy by answering in English Part 2

Answer to point 1-10
@DeathSentenceFAQ388

Conclusion
@DeathSentenceFAQ386
@DeathSentenceFAQ387

Previous 1:1 with Amnesty

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@DeathSentenceFAQ152
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@DeathSentenceFAQ164

etc.

All channels with science and facts!
@addlist
@AmnestyPropaganda
@AmnestyShit
@AmnestyFacts

About homicides / recidivism
@AmnestyFake
@RecidivismFacts
@ParoleFacts
@BreivikParole
@SoSorryTelegram
@BreivikSyndrome
etc.

Our statement about Amnesty
@AmnestyShit116
@AmnestyPropaganda
@DeathSentenceBullshit1546
etc.

10 motivi per dire NO alla pena di morte - One to one with Amnesty Italia Final part - World day (against) pro death penalty

Part 1 @DeathSentenceFAQ374

So again Death penalty = assisted suicide
@DeathSentenceFAQ386
@ShittyDeathExecutions48
@ShittyDeathExecutions49
@AmnestyPropaganda87

if there is no Amnesty / Europe mafia behind that!
@DeathSentenceBullshit1546
@DeathPenaltyCruel57
@DeathPenaltyCruel45

and ignorance about such tabu topics ...
@AmnestyFacts
@addlist

We know that:

a) currently death penalty are done with shit too! This need to be changed!
@BenShapiroBullshit210
@DeathSentenceFAQ285
@DeathSentenceFAQ221

How? Near proper sentence with brain, for example with
@DeathSentenceFAQ169
@DeathSentenceFAQ143

b) too many prisoners is a problem too!
@IsraelWarWomenRights1153
@DeathSentenceFAQ386

c) yes, we put in prison for life or apply death penalty to criminals that maybe never do the same crime again, even if they get released, like we said with Breivik
@PrisonBreakFacts112

BUT again PRIORITY IS SAFETY OF OUR SOCIETY! exactly like 🇨🇭 laws is saying too! and in such case HUMAN RIGHTS OF POPULATION > HUMAN RIGHTS CRIMINAL!
@AmnestyIgnorance221

otherwise we could release ALL PEOPLE from prisons ... NO ONE will know if such dude will redo the same crimes or not! Even not such bullshit psychologists!
@CrimeExamples137

Even if they don't go in prison again, DOESN'T MEAN THEY ARE NOT DOING THAT! since not all crimes have a criminal ... or are reported to the police!
@RecidivismFacts166
@RecidivismFacts193

We do that for other things too ... Just think about COVID, safety measures in airports (when in reality MOST PEOPLE are NOT criminal!), etc. Safety first!

Related
@DeathSentenceFAQ179

10 motivi per dire NO alla pena di morte - One to one with Amnesty Italia Part 13 - World day (against) pro death penalty

Part 1 @DeathSentenceFAQ374

Related to the previous rape post
@DeathSentenceFAQ385

Remember: more life sentences you are doing = "more wasted money" = too many prisoners = other criminals don't go in prison because they are already full ... SO IT'S COMPLEX

Life sentence = less money for homeless = less money for new prisons ....
@DeathSentenceFAQ384
@DeathSentenceFAQ376
@DeathSentenceFAQ381
@DeathSentenceFAQ380

Killing a person because "it costs us less" is the stuff of psychopaths answer
@DeathSentenceFAQ360
to
@DeathSentenceFAQ363

Another reason why we support assisted suicide!
@PrisonFacts1232

Not just because is an human right for not prisoners ...
@DeathPenaltyCruel11
@DeathPenaltyCruel87
@DeathPenaltyCruel88

but even an human right for prisoners!!!
@DeathPenaltyCruel43

So if a prisoner wish that, he should get this option after 10-20 years! Dying with dignity in prison too, instead of selfmade suicide!
@AmnestyPropaganda81
@AmnestyPropaganda85
but only if wished! NO FORCED SUICIDE!!!

In this way "we fix in part too many prisoners", "expensive", "recidivism / escape / etc. risk", near giving the prisoner human rights!

Now back to Amnesty one to one after this excursus ... So rehabilitation just for some prisoners NOT ALL! even knowing that some dudes maybe never do the crime again, like we wrote from
@DeathSentenceFAQ381

10. Non rispetta i valori di tutta l’umanità.
We already answered that in point 1)
@DeathSentenceFAQ374

Conclusion:

We agree

a) (in part) about traumas BUT don't forget all traumas!!!
@DeathSentenceFAQ379

b) dying is shit, especially HOW!
@DeathSentenceFAQ381

Death penalty = assisted suicide

10 motivi per dire NO alla pena di morte - One to one with Amnesty Italia Part 11 - World day (against) pro death penalty

Part 1 @DeathSentenceFAQ374

Again, rape is complex! and totally different compared to serial killer and right wing terrorism
@DeathSentenceFAQ384

We support death penalty especially for
a) child rape
@DeathSentenceNOW58
@DeathSentenceFAQ286

b) multiple rape / serial killer rapers / terroristic rapers
@DeathSentenceNOW64
@RapeDeathSentence23

c) multiple crimes done with rape
@CrimeExamples44
@RapeDeathSentence18

this means, more serious crimes are you doing, more probability you have to get a death penalty. Just a quick example?

cannibal + serial killer + rape + acid attack + killing the victims would be 5 death penalties for us!, which means such dude deserve for sure death penalty! by getting a death penalty

Even if "killing a victim" is NOT a reason of death penalty! in combination with rape yes!
@DeathSentenceFAQ293

If such dude is filming and sharing that, well again 2x death penalties, if combined with the other crimes! even if filming is not a death penalty per default!
@CrimeExamples44

In the previous example
@RapeDeathPenalty17
the reason is because he used acid! which is death penalty per default for us!

Death penalty to all type of rape where we have 100% proof? Do we need to be honest? For us the answer would be YES, because rape is the worst crime ever!
@DeathSentenceFAQ129

but we know how people against death penalty think, means "if 700 people rape girls just in a country, we need to apply 700 death penalties each year just for that" or similar things ...

Our answer to make both sides happy? Death penalty to the group a, b, c and in case of "normal single rape" at least 20 years! better a life sentence WITHOUT PAROLE! or in case parole only when you are 👨‍🦳 ...
@CrimeExamples44